Since I happen to have had all three jackets in hand I thought I’d put together a side-by-side comparison. It might help you decide. Heck, it might help me decide. This fancy tech stuff is so hard to choose between.
I have always loved looking at garments, construction, and fabrics, so as geeky and boring as it may sound to you, a comparison like this is sorta fun for me. We’re looking at women’s jackets without hoods. Here goes:
| THERMOBALL | NANO PUFF | THERMOSTATIC | GHOST WHISPERER | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| PRICE (MSRP) | $199 | $199 | $220 | $320 |
| WEIGHT (for medium) | 328 grams | 280 grams | 255 grams | 181 grams |
| BODY | body: 15D 33 g/m² (1.16 oz/yd²) 100% nylon with DWR | 1.4-oz 22-denier 100% recycled polyester, with a DWR (durable water repellent) finish | 20D Nylon Micro Ripstop Thermostatic | Whisperer 7D x 10D Ripstop |
| INSULATION | 9.5 g/ft² and 13 g/ft² ThermoBall™ powered by PrimaLoft® synthetic insulation | 60g PrimaLoft® Gold 100% polyester | 60g Thermic Micro™ TK 100% polyester | Q.Shield™ Down 800-Fill |
| LINING | 100% nylon ripstop | 1.4-oz 22-denier 100% recycled polyester | 100% nylon ripstop | 100% nylon |
| WATER | Water-resistant w/DWR coating | Water-resistant w/DWR coating | Water-resistant | Water-resistant |
| WIND | Wind-resistant | Windproof | Wind-resistant | Wind-resistant |
| POCKETS | 2 outer | 3 (2 outer, 1 inner) | 2 outer | 2 outer |
| HANDWARMER POCKETS? | NO | NO | YES | THEY SAY YES, I SAY NYLON |
| STOWS IN OWN POCKET? | YES | YES | YES | YES |
| ZIPPER | BEEFY Vislon zipper (why?) | YKK #4.5 | YKK #5 | YKK #3 (!?!!) |
| HEM DRAWCORDS | YES, inside pocket | DUAL, 2mm elastic cord | DUAL, 3mm elastic cord | SINGLE RIGHT, 2mm elastic cord |
| COLORS | 15 | 9 | 4 | 5 |
| LOGOS ON OUTER? | YES, embroidered on | YES, stitched on | YES, embroidered on | YES, vinyl ironed on |
| QUILTING PATTERN | DIAMOND (approx 8 stitches per inch) | BRICK (approx 8 stitches per inch) | WAVE (approx 10 stitches per inch) | BAR (approx 9 stitches per inch) |
| CARE | Unknown | Machine wash cold, no bleach or fabric softeners, tumble dry low | Machine wash cold, no bleach or fabric softeners, tumble dry low | Machine wash cold gentle, no bleach or fabric softeners, tumble dry low, remove promptly |
| MADE IN | China | Vietnam | China | China |
How is down made?
A not-so-funny cartoon presented by Patagonia about how most down is harvested from live birds
Other [ethical] Down Jackets to consider
Vaude Kabru Light II Jacket – this jacket is not only windproof and waterproof, but is free of damaging PFCs (per-fluorocarbons) and has a RDS certificate! The only down side to this appealing jacket is a lack of hood option, and the fact it is 650 fill. Not even knowing the fill weight, but seeing this is a sub 9oz jacket, we can assume it’s not as warm as the other jackets listed.
Arc’Teryx Cerium LT Hoody – Another ethically sourced down jacket, this time with a hood and a weight closer to 10oz. But it has a ~3.3oz fill weight, meaning this is a WARM jacket. If you don’t mind a few ounces and want something STURDIER and WARMER than the Ghost Whisperer, get out your piggy bank.
Pictures of Puffies
The following comparison is between the Nano Puff and the Thermostatic only. Comparing a size medium:
- The collars are identical.
- The jacket front lengths are identical.
- The bottom hem around hips are identical.
- The Nano Puff appears to have an 1cm longer sleeve
- The Nano Puff has a tighter (by approx 1″) sleeve cuff
- The sleeve cuff constructions are identical except for size (the Nano Puff will hug your wrist)
Honestly, the Thermostatic feels slinkier, silkier, and lighter even though it uses sturdier hardware and technically weighs a little more. The insulation proprietary to Mountain Hardware (Thermic Micro™) doesn’t have as great/fancy a reputation as Primaloft ONE
Bottom line: Don’t buy the “Light Balsamic” color of the Nano Puff. It is disgusting. Buy anything else and you will look good and stay warm. Hee hee!
About a month after I wrote this I found a hooded Ghost Whisperer for under $200 and snatched it up. Unfortunately I’m in between sizes (I float in the medium but the small has tight armpits) but it’s just too cozy — and too light — to not use. Seven ounces. My only concern with the Ghost Whisperer is that the fabric is unbelievably thin. I have to have faith in the Mountain Hardware design engineers, but they certainly don’t know me. If this thing lasts until the fall, I’ll call it a success.
Update 10/2013: I have worn my Ghost Whisperer almost daily for nearly six months and I absolutely love it. Whenever I needed to get warm, I put it on and was warm. It barely shows any wear, except I got one small hole in the front, possibly a small burn hole. I am shocked at how good it still looks, because I am rough on my things and thought for sure I would destroy it! I have washed it about three times, twice in the sink and once in a front-loading washer and dryer with McNett’s down wash. It turned out fantastically each time, though I must say the down wash really does make a down garment fluffier than regular soap. Tips for hand-washing: don’t use powdered soap and do NOT ever wring out the jacket. Just let it soak a few minutes and swish it in the water. A lot of dirt might come out (as was my case). After rinsing a few times, I pressed it dry, squeezing out the water by pressing it flat up against a non-absorbent surface. Then I hung it to dry, occasionally vigorously shaking it to loosen the feathers. Another testament to how sturdy this jacket is, is the fact that I also briefly hiked in it a couple times. With my 30lb backpack on! I recommend finding the extra cash to get a DOWN puffy, especially if you are going lightweight for a long-distance hike. It is worth the investment. If you are interested, learn more about ethics of down production. Down does come from live animals.
Update 3/2014: I just washed my Ghost Whisperer jacket again in front-loading home machines with McNett’s down wash and it did fine. The small 1cm circle duct tape “patches” I made to cover two small holes stayed in place despite washing and drying (delicate low heat). I used black duct tape and you can’t see the patches unless you look closely. I use this jacket almost daily. It’s looking like it will last me a long time — and I’ll get my money’s worth.
Update 7/31/2014: My Ghost Whisperer jacket is still holding strong, despite my near-daily usage through the Spring and my rough handling.
Update 11/29/2014: Same. My jacket is holding in there well. No new holes, good loft, tolerating near daily abuse. Worth every penny, in fact had I known it would be so good I would have paid more.
Update 11/10/2015: The same Ghost Whisperer is still intact, amazingly. I’ve now washed it at least 10 times. Quilting stitches have started to break, though. But otherwise, wow!
Update 10/9/2016: The Ghost Whisperer zipper has finally bitten the dust. I will likely be recycling the down into a new handmade jacket.
Update 2025: I have a new Ghost Whisperer jacket since early 2017, and it is the same quality as the old one (update 2025: It’s still holding strong after several VERY long hikes and lots of hi-jinx). I’ve had a Patagonia Down Sweater since then and it wasn’t nearly as durable as the Ghost Whisperer. I’m not even sure how that makes sense, given the down sweater is higher denier. Maybe the GW low profile helps keep it from snagging on things. I’ve also been holding on to a Thermoball since 2016 and would have probably off-loaded it except it has a sweet “galaxy” textile print. I’m not sure it keeps me warm, or that it even really did the way down does. But I’d definitely trust it WAY more in wet weather than I would a down jacket.




Nancy
AWESOME POST! Exactly what I needed to hear! I am going to Breck in late Feb and am trying to decide which mid-layer to purchase. It will be one of these 3. I have a Mountain Hardware gortex shell I’ll be wearing and am trying to figure out what will keep me warm without feeling constricted. I only wear 3 layers. Base. Mid. Shell. Anything else annoys the hell outta me. That said, my mid-layer has a HUGE role to fill!! To be thin AND warm!
Can you tell me if I am summing up your post correctly? From what I am reading you are saying that you can’t really go wrong with any of them if you are looking for thin and warm. All 3 are the thinnest down/primalofts on the market. Thermostatic is the least warm? Ghost whisperer is the warmest? But the NanoPuff has a better reputation for warmth over the Thermostatic because it is made with Primaloft? With all that being said…I feel like I would have to go with the Ghost Whisperer as long as it is just as thin as the others. If it is more thick, I think I’ll buy the NanoPuff!
Sorry I am type A and an over-analyzer. But when I’m droppin’ this kind of dough on a mid-layer I gotta compile all the research I can first!!
Let me know if you can!
Caroline
Nancy, the Ghost Whisperer is only slightly more “thick” than the other two jackets but equally compressible, and lighter. It is as warm as it needs to be, meaning I’ve found it to be comfortable in all temps I’ve worn it in, down to slightly below freezing temps. I wouldn’t overanalyze this one — just save the extra pennies and get the Ghost Whisperer. It is the best of the three, hands down.
Richard Ka
Seems like the Thermoball is a bit of a no brainer since it can get wet and still be warm, right? It is light and has all the same features.
Because… I agree with your post about Sleeping Bags… down factories are MESSED UP!